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Mailbox sprite Earthbound / Mother 2: How to Skip Starman Junior!

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This is an EarthBound site, so let's have some EarthBound game stuff sometimes ;) This particular update comes courtesy of Floogal, our local super EarthBound gameplay analyzer person. And it's a pretty sweet trick: how to skip the Starman Junior battle at the beginning of the game!

Details about it can be found on the forum here, but basically, you want to do these things after Pokey joins you at the beginning of the game.
  1. Don't take King with you.
  2. At the top of the hill, lure an enemy up to the roadblocks. This is the tough part.
  3. Also make sure your HP is as close to 0 as possible before talking to Picky.
  4. When walking up to Picky, walk low, so that you don't accidentally make the enemy go far offscreen and disappear.
  5. After the Buzz Buzz speech, go fight the enemy (if you did things right, it should still be there).
  6. Let the enemy kill Ness. You have two turns until Buzz Buzz starts attacking, so hopefully the enemy won't miss or do anything non-attacky.
  7. You'll get a game over and start back at your house, but with Picky, Pokey, and Buzz Buzz.
  8. You can continue the game normally now. Once the sun comes up, the Starman Jr. battle won't be triggered if you walk in that area, so don't worry.

Here's a short video of it in action:


(link in case embedded doesn't work)

Try it sometime! And see if you can beat Frank at Level 1 now!

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Well, there's still no fighting Frank at level 1, gotta beat the Shark blocking the way first
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Didn’t someone say you can run from that one though?

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Maybe, never heard that. I'll just be quiet now
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sprite Zachary

    Nice. Now if somebody could find a way to save Buzz Buzz I’d be really impressed.

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      That would mean going to Pokey’s house without passing the meteorite, then going back to it later.
      You could do it with a walk through walls cheat

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        LOL that is so cool! The player should have tried going back to where you fight the Starman Jr. (But now from the other side...:o) To see what would happen!
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          How long do you keep Buzz buzz, Picky and Pokey?

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            catch with your hands, not with your atm card. Still awesome.

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            Man, Floogal is like a box of never ending awesome.

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              I’m going to try to get to Frank at level 1 on M 1+2. I’ll post a pic if I manage it.

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              It’s useful for low-level games, anyway…

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                Wait…so Buzz Buzz still dies anyway? I think that it would be pretty awesome if Picky, Pokey, and Buzz Buzz followed you throughout the game. Of course, if Buzz Buzz doesn’t die, then you won’t get the sound stone…and if Pokey doesn’t leave, then it will start to get awkward when Pokey taunts you at Happy Happy Village.

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                  I can’t get to Frank at level 1, it’s too frustrating. It would be possible, though.

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                  It’s useful for low-level games, anyway…

                  Nah, it’d be impossible to beat Frank at level 1 without extreme luck and patience.

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                  Which is why I know someone here WILL do it

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                  ^I’ve tried this, and fought Frank with 0 exp. points. But yeah, it is pretty much impossible…

                  However, after fighting just one Pogo Punk and gaining a hamburger, 15 exp. points, and PSI Lifeup, it is possible to beat Frank at Lv. 2 if he keeps lowering your guts and not brandishing his knife… took me more than a few tries to finally do this, but I did! Though you end up at like Lv. 4 after beating Frank so it’s really not worth the trouble.

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                  It’s useful for low-level games, anyway…

                  Nah, it’d be impossible to beat Frank at level 1 without extreme luck and patience.

                  Ah, but with luck and patience, fantastic things can happen!

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                  Just recently I did something kind of like this. I waited until I was level 13 to get Picky, at that level Ness can cast shield alpha, when the starmen jr. battle started I cast my shield and override buzz buzz’s shield after starman jr. attacked I was killed and started back at my house, I still had Pokey and Picky with me and after taking them home the game progressed as normal.

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                    I guess that keeping Picky, Pokey and buzz-buzz after the morning must gives some graphic bugs. Imagine having King, Picky, Pokey, Buzz-buzz, Dungeon Man, Paula, Jeff, Poo, Tony, Bubble monkey and a Teddy Bear in your team : )

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                      Err... Thanks for the credit.

                      But shouldn't the person who actually made the video get some/most of the credit? After all, I could have simply been spewing some random thing from my cake-hole, and the video-maker actually provided us proof that it actually works.

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                      Not really, since you figured it out. I couldn’t have made the video without your findings.

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                        This is a lot of trouble just so you can avoid a battle that you cannot possibly lose… But its still really cool!

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                        Nice find dude! This is exciting.

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                          Just curious what does the blue symbol with the 2 in it mean?

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                          It is the earth, the main symbol for the mother series :o

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                            Just curious what does the blue symbol with the 2 in it mean?

                            Where is this?

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                            Ha, that’s pretty cool. However, if you can’t keep Buzz Buzz, Picky, and Pokey, I don’t see much use for it since it’s essentially the same game but without the first battle. If you want to do a low-level run, then I guess this could be useful, but I’ve never cared much for that kind of thing.

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                            Err… Thanks for the credit.

                            But shouldn’t the person who actually made the video get some/most of the credit? After all, I could have simply been spewing some random thing from my cake-hole, and the video-maker actually provided us proof that it actually works.
                            Not really, since you figured it out. I couldn’t have made the video without your findings.

                            Same goes for the shield cancel thing. You had the idea, I’m just the idiot that spent a whole day grinding to level twelve on the local wildlife.

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                            I’m inside Frank’s yard with 0 exp.
                            That challenge was pretty hard… I think the one where you bait a Shark all the way up the hill is more fun.

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                            Very nice discovery! Useless? Basically, yeah. But seeing as the game’s over a decade old, finding things about it I never knew is always fantastic. :thumbsup:

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                            I'm inside Frank's yard with 0 exp. :P
                            That challenge was pretty hard... I think the one where you bait a Shark all the way up the hill is more fun.


                            How did you get past the shark? The only thing I can think of is that you ran from the battle and he disappeared. Can you do that?
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                              Yeah, if you manage to run away he dissappears.

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                                Just imagine Starman Jr. waiting for them, Ness doesn’t go back to Onett at the end of the game, by that time he probably just gave up!

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                                Nice.

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                                A the end of the game, when it’s night again, does Starman Jr. come back?

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                                  A the end of the game, when it’s night again, does Starman Jr. come back?

                                  I really doubt it. I’m pretty sure once you leave Pokey’s house, it untriggers the Starman Jr. event.

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                                    It’s based on hotspots. I think that once you hit hotspot 2 (leaving pokey’s) you can’t go back to hotspot 1 (starman Jr.)

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                                    Heh, I’m surprised that this hasn’t been thought of before!

                                    Now that I’ve got into mentality of how to skip events in the game…let’s see how many we can find!

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                                    WTF

                                    Now I have to do my low-level run all over again :(

                                    …Nah, I won’t be doin’ that. Still, good catch, Floogal. It surprises me that nobody’s even stumbled on this by accident before.

                                    This post is probably a joke. I just wanted to clear that up for Jatopian.

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                                      you know, i’ve always wondered if that were possible, but i never tried it out. now i only wish there was a way to save Buzz-Buzz. ;_;

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