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Jeff sprite MOTHER 3 Sprite Editor - your chance to test it!

Version 0.1 alpha

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Hey guys. I’ve been working on this sprite editor for MOTHER 3 for some time now. I wasn’t gonna release it until I finished the editing tools and basic stuff like copy/paste, but I still have to test it for bugs, so I figured ‘what the hey, let the community test it!’.

Attached is the 0.1 alpha version of the program. Go ahead and test it out, try to break it, etc. If you find anything that doesn’t work right then post about it here. Also, back up your ROM before using this!

The first thing you should notice is that each “sprite” is actually a group of ‘sub-sprites’. For example, Flint has a head sub-sprite and a body sub-sprite. They have to be edited and rendered separately. There are also four banks of sprites, each with 1000 sprite entries. Not all of them have usable data, but a lot of them do, and there are something like 25,000 sprites total. Ack.

Note that the names aren’t all accurate. Fixing the name list is something I’ll get around to, but if someone else wants to go ahead and name them, be my guest! I’ll upload the list of names for anyone who wants to edit it.


Features:

  • Pencil tool, bucket tool, eyedropper tool, and eraser tool
  • Can select both a primary and secondary colour at the same time (similar to MSPaint)
  • Can flip sub-sprites horizontally and vertically
  • Supports 1x – 16x zoom
  • Can edit some sub-sprite properties, such as relative position
  • Can save sprites and sub-sprites as PNG files, as well as copy them to the clipboard
  • Can generate full spritesheets (see the other attached picture :D)
  • Can actually edit sprites

Future plans:

  • More editing tools, such as selection, lines, ellipses, rectangles, etc.
  • Copy/paste
  • Undo
  • Palette editing
  • You think of stuff and post here

EDIT: Oh yeah, you’ll need the .NET framework. Version 3.5, probably.

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Yes! Finally! It works great by the way. Sadly, there is no undo button…

Tomorrow, it could be you

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Very nice.

BTW, I’m pretty sure this only really depends on .NET 2.0. It worked fine for me when I tried running it under the Mono framework, anyway. That also means you should be able to run it on non-Windows operating systems as well.

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one small step for mother fans, one huge step for mother hacking

Now with 20% more cake

sprite potato

    I LOVE IT I CAN RIP NOW!

    Hate is a state of mind.

    sprite martinmtf

    hooray for first mother 3 sprite editor

    EXTREME SPOILER THAT SPLITTS YOUR LIFE AND ESTROYS THE WORLD!!!

    boney is a dog.

    sprite Cherrykid13

      Dang .Net frameworks!!!

      Using a Mac makes me sad in times like this.

      Zeico, 15 minutes could save you 15 percent or more on ZOMBIE INSURANCE!!

      sprite willterminus

      Ill try running it in darwine on mac os 10.5

      sprite Cherrykid13

        I’ve tried, but it requires the windows .net frameworks, which I can’t install.

        Zeico, 15 minutes could save you 15 percent or more on ZOMBIE INSURANCE!!

        sprite willterminus

        Im useing the latest build with TRiX which is letting me install it

        sprite Chimera

        It’s great but it could use work, I have very minor gripes about it, The frames are too small, so they need to be taller so we can see the whole sprite that we’re editing, also some sprites are missing from each set.

        Those aside, this is amazing!

        sprite willterminus

        Got it running under mac OS X with darwine

        Step 1: Install X11 if you dont have it from your install CD
        Step 2: Install Darwine
        Step 3: Open TRiX and install .net frameworks 1.0 2.0 and mono
        Step 4: Open up the sprite editor

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        I don’t see why you’d need Darwine or anything like that. The Mono Framework (which I mentioned earlier in the thread) is quite capable of running .NET binaries compiled for Windows all on its own. On Linux anyway, all you’d need to do is run “mono MOTHER3SpriteEditor.exe” and it should work like a charm; I don’t see why it would be any harder on a Mac.

        sprite Cherrykid13

          I don’t think the Mac version of mono has the .net frameworks. It says it only contains Mono, Cocoa#, and Gtk#.

          But I got it to work on OSX. I had to reinstall darwine a few times though.

          Zeico, 15 minutes could save you 15 percent or more on ZOMBIE INSURANCE!!

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          Mono doesn’t contain the .NET framework. Mono is the .NET framework, or rather an open-source cross-platform implementation of it. If you have Mono, you don’t need the .NET framework, unless you’re running an application that depends on newer features that have not been implemented in Mono yet. The Mother 3 sprite editor works fine in Mono, though; I just tried it.

          sprite Cherrykid13

            Well, I guess I was wrong. I just tried it with mono and it worked. I couldn’t get it to work with mono before though… weird. Oh well.

            Thanks Mr. A!

            edit: Although, Mono seems to quit unexpectedly sometimes.

            Zeico, 15 minutes could save you 15 percent or more on ZOMBIE INSURANCE!!

            sprite willterminus

            I tried it with mono as well works better then in darwine although you have to go through the terminal to run it.

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            I made some small changes, and everything seems to be working fine.

            Theory: Giygas has a fetish.

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            Chimera: The main window is resizable; you can zoom out; and scrollbars appear if the sprite is bigger than the frame. If you can’t find a sprite you’re looking for, check the other three banks by selecting Bank 1, Bank 2, or Bank 3 at the top-right. A lot of the custom sprite animations are in those three rather than in Bank 0; for example, Flint going nuts with the lumber, and the hidden Kumatora/Duster sparkly sprites are in separate banks from their corresponding entries in Bank 0.

            sprite GB140

              I think it would be best to have a backup ROM in case you messed up.
              (By the way, this little thing is just what I need to create my own hack of Mother 3…)

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              now all we need is a text editor to go with it….

              let’s make lucas bald, and look in the mirror:

              “bald, as always.”

              and make yokuba say something different to wess:

              “don’t grow hair on your way home!”

              ahh… i can’t wait for this to expand.. if it does…
              and now it’s EB0 without any editing stuff.

              EDIT: and a battle sprite editor… that would be good too…

              sprite GB140

                Exactly! I need one of those too. I only started on my official hack, and its super complicated…

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                but now i get to mess around with pokey…. HEY! I could also play as The masked man!

                … this is going to be epic.

                sprite M3FTW

                  And for those of us that love looking at unused sprites, its certainly a plus as well! ^^

                  Awesome to see this though, seeing as it means that we’re THAT much closer to seeing a PK hack for MOTHER3. Thanks for releasing this!

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                  hahahaha… now we have an outside sprite for the unused boss! needs tweaking though…

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                  Is there any way to edit battle sprites with this I cant seam to find them

                  sprite Chimera

                  Chimera: The main window is resizable; you can zoom out; and scrollbars appear if the sprite is bigger than the frame.

                  What I was talking about was the subsprite thing, I’d like to see the whole sprite instead of just the body or the top of the head. If there’s any way to fix that, please tell me.

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                  Oh, I see what you mean. Unfortunately, that’s just how the game is laid out; see the attached screenshot. They’re split up like that just because, and trying to make an interface for editing all sub-sprites simultaneously would be hellish.

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                  sprite Chimera

                  Okay, I’ll just have to bear with it then. Maybe if we can get more hackers on a crew, we can make a full M3 PK hack. All I really need is this sprite editor, a text editor, and a battle sprite editor. Maybe an event editor.

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                  010C – Chauffeur gives NK Cyborg
                  0118 Gives Lord Passion, not “Woman (8)” Unless The Lord is a woman? o_o
                  There is kinda lot of errors like this, Leder(0120) gives the RhinoceroRocket sprites.
                  And Some sprites(0111 – O2 MAchine(2)) gives the Dummy sprite saw in Mato’s tests for the Lil’ Forest.

                  I can help you complete the enemy list if you want.

                  But it’s still some great work, for a 0.1.0.0 version ^^

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                  Of course.
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                  i need to be able to change the palette. how do i do that?

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                  Difegue: Yeah, I got to around 0×100 before giving up on the names. You’re free to help complete the list.

                  HAK2: Right now there isn’t any palette editing support, but I suppose I could add it in next. The thing is, a lot of characters share palettes (like in EarthBound) so changing around the colours in one palette will most definitely make something else look funny.

                  sprite Chimera

                  I would be able to help with the names if you can tell me how to help you.

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                    if there’s ever a fill tool, will it be more reliable then PK hack’s?

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                    There is a fill tool; I called it a bucket tool for some reason.

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                    The shop had two decent books, I’d written both of them.

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                    I gave Lucas a red hat, now i have to hit Flint with a bat

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                    It took me a while to get that reference. But it’s friggin hilarious!

                    By the way, I can’t find the flint rampage sprites.

                    [/quote][Peppy] DO A BARREL ROLL!!![/quote]

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                      I’m not sure if it was me just messing around too much, but I’ve been looking at the sprites, and [001F] Thomas (1) has two blank sprites past 95.

                      Other than that, this program makes me happy ^^

                      (EDIT: Also, 0021 Thomas (3), sprites number 24-31 and 37 are blank, but these show a pallette. Are these for, like hot spring? But that doesn’t make sense because the rest are in his orange work uniform. And a few more, that I don’t feel like posting a complete list, unless you want one.)

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                      I know that a lot of them are blank, and they’re like that in the game too, so it’s not a program problem. A lot of sprites are really glitchy too but show up as such in the game, so just roll along with it I guess.

                      sprite TheFakePsychic

                        Okay good. I thought I broke something. Partially because this time I was just looking, and another thing is I was looking at high speeds.

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                        you also need to name the unknowns, I found one to be named Porky (3)+splash. and Banpresto+weird lucas. and the dead sprites for Flint, duster, and the two lucas’.

                        you gots some namin to do

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                          I noticed you aren’t finished naming sprites yet. I know it will take a while, and you also need some adjustments made to the options.

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                          Jeffman, Can I help you with the name programming?

                          [/quote][Peppy] DO A BARREL ROLL!!![/quote]

                          sprite bananaman

                            Jeffman, this is awesome. We finally have our first Mother 3 editing tool. It can only go forward from here.

                            In other words, it’s only a matter of time before people start to explore the ROM.

                            (Thumbs up!)

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                              Wow, I will definetely try this.
                              And we’re one step closer to the MOTHER3-to-EarthBound-Hack*

                              *not likely to be ever created

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                              Here is a 75% completed sprite list.
                              Beware through, there is a time at the end of the document where the Unknowns are Noone sprites that I don’t renamed. There was too much and I was lazy. I signaled it through a little note, but there is so much unknown lines you may skip it.

                              Also, I don’t know all the enemy names, so some sprites just have a description.
                              To help you, all the corrected names have a – in front of them.

                              I’ll probably finish completing it tommorrow or so.

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                              Of course.
                              itt I don’t have a fursona

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                              This is really nice. I’ve got an idea for it.

                              sprite golfman52392

                              I edited all of the young Lucas and 3 years later Lucas sprites but when i go into the game none of the changes show. Is it the emulator im using? It’s Rascalboy Advance because for some reason Visual Boy Advance wont work at my school. I’d hate for all that time to be for naught.
                              EDIT: It was the emulator.. New emulator, new sprites! This is awesome… I cant wait til a text editor comes along as well.

                              sprite TheFakePsychic

                                Please don’t kill me Difegue, but I kind of helped. Some of the names are just descriptions, and some are vague. I’ve got all of them but around 3 named, but that’s because they look really weird.

                                Also, the one word descriptions toward the end to the second to last clump that Difegue did, are because I skipped some, because around 20 something in a row were weird glitches, just assume it goes from the last one that I did that wasn’t one word, (in a coherent sentence every line), to the first one by Difegue, which may or may not have an addendum by me

                                (I probably used that word wrong, but oh well)

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                                Yeah thanks, I weren’t reall with the courage to get all the correct names with the help of the walkthru.
                                We made a perfect teaming! Yay! =D

                                PS: Doorknob —Looks more like nut to me
                                Nah it’s the doorknob

                                My fursona is a Balrog-patterned squid.
                                Of course.
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